D&D Icons of the Realms: Phandelver and Below: The Shattered Obelisk (Set 29)

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bshugg wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:06 pm I love the hydra being in the water. If it was the only hydra out there It would be annoying but we have the PF hydra, Fen Hydra and the Theros one. This expands options for me to use it as a moat monster, attack a ship, creature in a dark sea cave, etc....
I can't argue, and am grateful for the option. I wish it was an additional option instead of the main thing, though. But yeah, it saves a modder having to chop heads off of a good model to achieve the same encounter piece ('cause I thought about it). Before they said about the ship, my thought was a scene where the party crosses a long rope bridge, then one snake like head pops out from below, then another, then another, as they slowly rise above the narrow structure to look down at the snacks before them. :twisted:
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So first we had a submerged froghemoth and now a submerged hydra. I'm happy to have both, but I hope they don't overdo this and just start copy-pasting submerged *whatever* for the next few years.
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Malroth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:27 am So first we had a submerged froghemoth and now a submerged hydra. I'm happy to have both, but I hope they don't overdo this and just start copy-pasting submerged *whatever* for the next few years.
Where is this submerged froghemoth?
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Sooterkin wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:53 am
Malroth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:27 am So first we had a submerged froghemoth and now a submerged hydra. I'm happy to have both, but I hope they don't overdo this and just start copy-pasting submerged *whatever* for the next few years.
Where is this submerged froghemoth?
It's in the forthcoming Onslaught set that's slated for October if I recall correctly. It looks great, imo, as does the Yuan-Ti in the set
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Malroth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:27 am So first we had a submerged froghemoth and now a submerged hydra. I'm happy to have both, but I hope they don't overdo this and just start copy-pasting submerged *whatever* for the next few years.
Heh, its just two miniatures in desperate product lines out of the literal hundreds of minis we see released annually. I wouldnt worry.
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Dragomir wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:00 am In 5e the dragons can be spell casters and it does not remove their ability to attack. They only have to choose if they want to attack or cast a spell (in case this spell requires an action). Same rules apply to all other monsters and PCs.

And I agree the fights against dragons in the BGI+II were one of the hardest.

On topic: I never liked half-creature miniatures. I feel somehow cheated if buying these.
Oh you are right, I just re-checked the MM. I guess I confused this with maybe Pathfinder rules or some other RPG I read, sorry.
Agreed I too feel cheated by this mini. I am torn because while I hate that we got only half a Hydra, I still love the heads, they have so much character. I vastly prefer the D&D Hydra design because they look like a specific monster, neither Snake nor Lizard or Dragon... while when I look at the PFB Hydra, I just see a Corn Snake that happens to have multiple heads - the heads are just regular Snake heads.
Malroth wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:27 am So first we had a submerged froghemoth and now a submerged hydra. I'm happy to have both, but I hope they don't overdo this and just start copy-pasting submerged *whatever* for the next few years.
The thing is, nobody minded the submerged Froghemoth - in fact we all loved it - because we have had a regular Froghemoth for several years now and it is an easy to get Uncommon.
But we are 10 years into 5E D&D and they still have not made a Hydra mini (only the more specific Polukranos).
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Strongly agree about the Froghemoth, it’s an additional option, this is just not filling a vacuum. I don’t really care for Polukranos but not because of the mini - I played a lot of Theros limited and the character has a strong association with the physical asset in my mind sadly.
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BBShockwave wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:27 pmwe are 10 years into 5E D&D and they still have not made a Hydra mini (only the more specific Polukranos).
I've been waiting for a legged hydra since 2003 (3e/DDM). It was only 4e that had legless hydra's (despite the legless Fen Hydra coming out just before 4e).

I've had to kitbash my own several times... but that at least allows one to vary the number of heads, or create submerged versions. They had the right idea with the Pathfinder variable-headed hydra. I've no idea why they didn't think to do that with the Icon's submerged version.
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mvincent wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:03 pm I've no idea why they didn't think to do that with the Icon's submerged version.
The connecting issues they had with the wings of one of the Dragonlance dragons comes to mind. Too many large irregular pieces, too many points of failure?
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I dunno, they could have done it, the connection points would be as large as the saddles on the new modular Dragons, and those usually work quite well.
mvincent wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 5:03 pm
BBShockwave wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:27 pmwe are 10 years into 5E D&D and they still have not made a Hydra mini (only the more specific Polukranos).
I've been waiting for a legged hydra since 2003 (3e/DDM). It was only 4e that had legless hydra's (despite the legless Fen Hydra coming out just before 4e).

I've had to kitbash my own several times... but that at least allows one to vary the number of heads, or create submerged versions. They had the right idea with the Pathfinder variable-headed hydra. I've no idea why they didn't think to do that with the Icon's submerged version.
Ah yeah, I often forgot, 3E still had legged Hydras... we just oddly, never got a Hydra mini in all that time from Harbinger to DoD... I think Dungeons of Dread, even if it came out before 4E, already used 4E art for basis of the minis - plus that was when the 1.0 miniature game rules changed to 2.0 too.
I can recommend this guy from Plastoy - I am actually selling mine now that I have Polukranos. He is about (modern) Gargantuan in size.
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What they said that plastic Hydra I have 4 of them painted up
One orange for pyrohydra (which I think was the default color of the one I picked up)
one purple for cryohydra
and 2 done in brown for regular Hydra..

I think years ago I got them for like $10 bucks each?
Grab some old CDs, use black tape and glue on....boom got a base!
For all 4 ..... years ago, you will pay way less than the one that is submerged.... think about it. :).. it has legs!
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BBShockwave wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 pmI can recommend this guy from Plastoy
Nice. I had obtained the orange one (to use as a pyrohydra), but didn't know they came in that color. I've also previously used a 3e hydra modeled from clay, and a skeletal hydra made from dollar store dinosaur skeletons.
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The book is up at GN.
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mvincent wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:10 pm
BBShockwave wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:10 pmI can recommend this guy from Plastoy
Nice. I had obtained the orange one (to use as a pyrohydra), but didn't know they came in that color. I've also previously used a 3e hydra modeled from clay, and a skeletal hydra made from dollar store dinosaur skeletons.
Yes, there were 2 color releases, I think the orange was the original release, and the purple came later, as when I tried to get one I could only find this variant online.
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I'm not sure if it's been mentioned, but we actually have no Huges in this set, nor in Seas & Shores.

I'm actually very grateful for that.
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